>> and she is going for a conservative base, and i have talked to richard land over at the southern baptist convention and some of the people, and for the base, this is going to be an issue that actually wins her sympathy, the more she is slapped around for sticking to her core moral beliefs, the more it is going to make her seem like somebody who sticks by her guns, and who won't bend to popular opinion. >> authenticity. michelle cottle, thank you so much. >> thank you, ezra. next, the hacking scandal intensifies, and rupert murdoch's empire shows new signs of collapse. stick with us. [ female announcer ] ever wish vegetables didn't taste so vegetably? well, v8 v-fusion juice gives you a full serving of vegetables, plus a full serving of fruit. but it just tastes like fruit. and try our deliciously refreshing v8 v-fusion + tea. with listerine® whitening plus restoring rinse. it's the only listerine® that gets teeth two shades whiter