they did there, gone in and hacked into people's e-mail, people's telephone lines to find out information about the victims of 9/11, how hot is that? >> gosh, chris, i mean, that is the, you know, that is the big elephant in the room, but i think it's important to point out that there's no evidence thus far that any of that hacking activity has occurred stateside. >> why would it not happen over here? it happened in great britain. >> obviously the folks in washington are going to try to find out, but it's important to point out that we have no evidence that it happened here. it's a relevant question to be asking. >> the whole question of his empire, i was always fascinated by his speed. this guy's american citizenship. we argue about immigration all the time in this country. i know people have become americans. this guy did it in about 15 minutes. who helped him? how does he get these licenses that you can only get if you're