it doesn't create any -- it hauz money until 2037. when you make certain changes in social security, that money doesn't go to reduce the debt or the deficit. it goes into the social security fund. i think the president put it on the table to show the republicans he's willing to go the extra mile. but he called their bluff and they still said because we won't raise taxes on millionaires because we won't close any loopholes. kay bailey hutchison, god bless her, she's a good friend. you have to open other loopholes. she's not willing to do that to reduce the deficit. >> a question for pat, then peggy. eric cantor walked out of meetings, boehner saying no deal, won't work. we're not going to go for the grand plan. you are getting a lot of no's. you have the visual of the president calling the meetings