board? >> you don't have to keep the entire conference. >> you don't, but -- >> there are 50 hard nos. >> i think talking to folks on the hill yesterday there are a lot more hard nos than that now. >> chuck, you're right. you don't have to keep the whole conference on board and they won't, but john boehner ultimately -- look, he's got eric cantor being, like, guys if this doesn't work out for boehner, i'm right here for speaker. he has to -- he cannot -- >> speaker or minority leader, though? >> fair point. but he cannot pass this deal with 75 republicans and the rest democrats. >> right. >> that's the line he's walking. he's in these negotiations. everybody says, why zont he just cut a deal? he can't just cut a deal because if he then goes back and says to the rank and file in the house, hey, i cut this deal and they say, no, we're not doing that, now he's even more weakened. it's a very fine line to walk. >> but i want to get pete in here. you were going to be part of the mitch daniels for president campaign had there been one. would mitch daniels walk away from a democrat saying, all