i have a respect for cheney mason as a lawyer from his comments until he did the middle finger salute. to me that, is stooping to the level of those that he accuses of denigrating television opinion. he became a pundit of his own in that moment. >> yeah. and judge alex, i think it's always worth pointing out and we have over the last, i don't know, 18, 20 hours since this verdict came down that we hear so much more than those jurors got to hear. i did think it was fascinating that this alternate juror was shocked by the fact that there was all this attention being paid to this. they don't hear all the things that are said in court when the jury is asked to leave the courtroom. they don't hear all the analysts that are on tv. they're only dealing with that evidence that they hear in court. >> i agree. and they also are sequestered. they don't know about all the public attention that grew day to day from beginning to the end of the trial. i'm sure that was quite a shock. i will say this about cheney