china feel more emotionally healthy, to so to speak, when holding onto their connection to their ancestors, here, compared to people here told to let go. >> had this conversation on and off in aç variety of contexts fr some time. >> yeah. >> really trying to -- from my perspective, trying to explain religious fundamentalism and apocalyptic thinking, the hyper materialism of the bankster class and the political ideology of the fundamentalism. and it struck me that we have this unresolved fear of death that's in our core that gets us to reach to some sort of outside system if i have enough money, if i behave the right way, if i just do this if you just do this well, then, i won't have to deal with death. well, the fact of the matter is we all do and must deal with that and your point is that there is a healthier way to go about it. >> absolutely. and i really -- i keep saying to people, i think this is a book about living as much as it is a book about death, because it is