>> i wouldn't disagree with you, i would point out what we have done in these countries in terms of killing civilians has fueled the feeling against this country. >> you need a voice with broader reach than ron paul. >> it does, needs a voice from the top. >> very fascinating, jon huntsman is saying things, republican candidates, mainstream republican candidates. >> many in the democratic party who don't get a hearing like ron paul, many. i admire dennis kucinich, he and ron paul have been out there mothers the progressive caucus whose people's budget is humane and speaks to a different approach to the military footing of this country. they need attention. the media needs to give them attention. >> katrina vanden heuvel, thank you very much. great conversation, you guys, be right back with more "morning joe." too much on your plate?