>> welcome back to hard ball. this week the republican house passed budget plan noticed the ryan plan was on the skillet. defending it, ryan accused of a political tactic, the demagogue. >> there is a story being told here and the story is the president with the demagogue healthcare. both parties have done this to each other. i won't sigh ruchs have never done this but if we continue to demagogue this program it will collapse. if we demagogue entitlement reform then the programs collapse. so yes, it is demagoguery. it is scaring seniors and yes people are nervous because of these ads.