that they wanted to hear and since the elections they've not really seen the results that they wanted. the $100 billion in spending cuts that the republicans promised in the fiscal 2011 budget didn't materialize. and now they're beginning to doubt to the republicans are going to hold the line when it come sz to the debt limit. >> nick, in your conversation with the tee party, these people in that private meeting with speaker baner and others, do you get the sense that they actually understand what the debt ceiling really is and what might happen to them, what might happen to the value of their own homes, their inability to sell their homes, their inability to get รง mortgages if they -- if somehow the republicans did not allow the debt ceiling to be raised? >> i think they understand very clearly what the debt limit{ is. i think they don't believe what they're being told by economists if the debt limit is breached. i think they've reached a point where they want to take to it the limit. they don't believe what they're hearing from economists.