training station, that all of the pakistans together did not know who was residing at that massive compound. >> pakistan sees terrorist groups as a useful tool. they see them as a tool against india, see them as a tool in afghanistan to manipulate events there. they're not on our side. every now and then, they'll work with us, particularly when they see their own government threatened. when they see terrorists as an instrument to be played against other countries and the united states for their own foreign policy interests, they will do that. again, we have to be prepared to do the sort of thing we just did, act independently, as if they were not an ally, a friend, partner, we simply have to take matters into our own hands, as imperfect as that is. it is not ideal. >> let me read you a quote hillary clinton took a lot of heat almost exactly one year ago, may 10th, 2010. here's what she said. i believe somewhere in this pakistani government are people who know where osama bin laden