the military we'd be without don't ask/don't tell. so the answer i think is just be honest, be direct and hold people accountable. >> but let's keep it even more real. when you say pressure, what kind of pressure? >> i think you see know that one of the things cited in the intro. we had people like lieutenant dan choy, a very compelling figure, willing to take whatever action was required. this was a person that all he wanted to do was serve his country, and he wasn't allowed to do it. he wasn't willing to take it, so i think there are other people like dan choy, no longer willing to take this kind of discrimination. >> i want to keep it even more real. is there money pressure where somebody goes, hey, you know what? i'm going to lose my donors, now all of a sudden we have a