it is not something i'm focused on. what my job is -- >> do you think president obama is a citizen of the united states? >> i -- everything i've been -- i've seen, he's the president -- he's a citizen of the united states. >> msnbc political analyst karen finney is a former spokesperson for the democratic national committee and, of course, the citizen part is not the sticking point. the sticking point is being a native borne american. i do not understand why any serious politician would think this is what's going to give them traction in an upcoming presidential run. >> i completely agree with you. and i actually -- i am shocked i'm going to say this. i agree with karl rove that i think it isรง actually turned donald trump into something of a laughingstock where as, you know, he was always a little bit of a, sort of a carnival figure, if you will, now he's just ridiculous. here's the conundrum, contessa, for the republican party. initially i think they sort of let it go a little bit because obviously there is a part of the