and your listeners know is a very important member of congress, the average american probably has not heard of him. i think a lot is the celebrity factor. donald trump, the big name recognition goes on television and says these -- really takes these hits at the president and these seem to be firing up these republican activists who, again are very hungry for that type of comment. >> charles, based on your reporting of local leaders and the voters, et cetera, when the republican leadership overall attacks them, as they have over the last couple of days are they risking alienating their own voters? >> that's quite possible. i think these -- this information about trump's past that you have been going on very heavily in your show here is something that's really come to the surface, at least at this level, quite recently. so, when i was talking with these activists just a few days ago, they did not talk about these things. i'm not even sure they were aware of them. so, now, i think a lot of this is reaction, a lot of people thought well we don't need to take trump seriously.