politicians don't usually talk like that. that was indiana republican mike pence earlier this week. it was persons himself that wanted to stripped planned parenthood on funding. no federal money does go to abortion. it's the me ventive care to the 3 million patients that they receive from an organization like that every year. more on the politics of the fight, joined by cecil richards, president of planned parenthood, and john heilemann who covers politics. let's look at the substance. cecile, it's always great to have you on. it always seems to be hot here. we have a hide amendment, as you know from your work on abortion issues and the whole question of choice bands under the law, and it's been this case for 20-some years,out can't spend federal money on abortions, but certainly can spend on birth รง control, preventative health, checkings, screenings,