position. >> i do not like to come to this table with sympathies for john boehner's plight. the problem he is facing, i think we can all agree, he may be able to agree to something in a room, that he may not be able to get an agreement tomorrow on capitol hill to then make something happen here. what is the number, what do you think the number of republican votes john penner has to get to be able to say the republicans are really participating in this agreement? there is some version of this where you could pass 45, 50 republicans. the rest of democrats in the house. if that happens, is that the end of john boehner as speaker? >> you are putting your finger on it. are we getting to a governing majority that is something that can pass a budget. >> it was pivot it just isn't a republican. >> or are we talking about the