we can't afford to take care of everyone because, again, our kids and our grand kids are going to be left with the bill. this is paul ryan right now, the house republicans, putting forth sort of a time-out now and saying let's finally get serious and, truthfully, the other side just hasn't, and they won't. >> and from your inside perspective, yes or no, is there going to be a government shutdown? >> i hope not. i'm afraid there might. i know our leadership is doing everything they can to avoid it. >> congressman joe walsh, great to have you on today. appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> coming up next, deadly storms to talk about tearing across the country, and then what lies beneath? how did a u.s. team discover the wreckage of a downed airliner 2 1/2 miles under the sea? [ female announcer ] little acts like using less material can make a meaningful impact. ♪