elsewhere? and this is going to be the big challenge he faces in devicing a grand strategy for the middle east. >> also quickly, the president referring to this is not about regime change. he brought up iraq saying it took eight years and thousands of american and iraqi lives and nearly $1 trillion. this is not about regime change, it's a humanitarian effort. >> well, yes. i mean, it's very clear that iraq haunts the obama administration and that they're very concerned about the parallels to iraq. so that's why obama kept on saying, this is an operation limited in scope, and we keep on hearing that theme. so it's very clear that obama's trying to steer a middle course between too much intervention and too little intervention. >> all right. thank you so much. we greatly appreciate your time, yet again, on "news nation." thank you. another big story, protesters rallying outside of the supreme court in support of women involved in the largest class action discrimination