anywhere in the world without some of the old regime there. one who fake the lead sometimes but help the changes happen. >> assume that gadhafi leaves one way or the other are you confident that libya will remain united, that it can come up with some kind of government? or do you become concerned about a civil war among the travel factions that are within libya? >> you know, maybe it is problem sometimes to find all the people that are one thing, maybe more than 95% or 99%, the libyan people there agreeing more than 99%. this man should go. they've been suffering for the last 42 years. their children, they're being killed in front of their eyes. now that is -- libyan people, they deserve to have a better life. and even in sirte, where his own family, they left to the south. they don't want to fight. they don't want to support it. >> do you think his days are numbered? >> very numbered.