ranking member of the senate foreign releases committee, republican senator richard lugar of indiana. welcome to "meet the press," senator. >> thank you. >> you've heard from secretary gates and clinton. i wonder, are you satisfied with the progress in libya and with their explanation of our mission? >> well, i was startled to hear secretary gates say that libya was not of vital interest, secretary clinton then came in with the fact that our european allies are very disturbed about the situation and of course we have justified military action as a humanitarian action to stop the shooting of civilians. i would just start by saying, before our nation goes to war or has military action, there must be a plan, there must be objectives, the endgame, what we want to achieve. and then at least some means as to how that's going to occur. that has not happened as yet, and the president has said we've had success because gadhafi would have murdered many people in benghazi. but the fact is that there was fighting in benghazi because the