station but also about public television. and it's about small stations in particular and what was stated by ron schulyer was an opinion and quickly turned into fact that npr could live without public funding. it's not an established fact. one in five member stations receive 25% of their budget from npr. people don't have access to news because a lot of news station and radio have fallen away. take the state of indiana. if public broadcasting went away there are people in small towns, small stations that wouldn't have access to news. we're strong, we're committed to providing excellent journalism and at the end of the day that's how we'll be judged. >> we'll have to take a break and leave it right there. up next we'll remember a dear froend this program here at the "meet the press", some models look so mad.