clearly the governor and republican leadership felt that they could never get public support behind this, which is why they went to this kind of a sham of a process, procedure. so we will go forward as senator miller stated. we will continue to fight. i believe now the wisconsin public, whether republican, democrat, independent, union, nonunion, see this for what it really is, taking away people's rights. and i can tell you one thing about wisconsin people. we understand fair play and have an innate sense of fairness. this is not right, this is not fair, and i don't think the wisconsin people are going to put up with this. >> rick badger, according to the e-mails we saw released yesterday, it looked as if the governor was very, very close to a compromise plan with the democrats. did people in the unions have any indication as today progressed that we were going to be here tonight with this story? >> well, first off, i don't think we were that close. with the selective release of e-mails, we looked at them,