recall these people. >> democrat chris larson, thank you for joining us on this historic night for wisconsin. >> thank you. >> joining me now, howard fineman of the huffington post and msnbc, and robert reich, former labor secretary in the clinton administration, and author of aftershock, the next economy in america's future. robert reich, fix for us this event's position in the history of the american labor movement. >> lawrence, this is another example, and we've had actually relatively few examples over the last 50 years, but over the last 100 years a number of examples of governors, of executives, politicians, basically trampling on the rights of people, making a mockery of democracy and of the rule of law. in wisconsin, the governor exposed himself. after all, his whole justification for getting rid of most of the bargaining rights of federal and state workers was to