out. whether he goes or not. it's up to him. we don't control what he does. but certainly we're aware of what he said, and we need his support right now. we're either going to have a middle class, we're either going to have organized labor in this country, or we're going to have the tea party taking over everything like you see in wisconsin and madison. it was a tremendous demonstration up there. people were peaceful. it was exciting to be there. and people are speaking out for their rights. and i heard the debate you had on this program. and one of the things we're talking about there is the war on the workers. because the teachers, the public employees have said you've got a $138 million deficit, we will adjust our wages to cover it. just keep it and let us have collective bargaining. and the scott brown -- or scott walker, who is the governor of this state, said no collective bargaining agreement. that doesn't make any sense. it just shows you this is about ideology, it's not about budgets. >> well, it seems that those 14 democratic senators do not have