it uses an upper stage aryan five, which launches from french guyna, andaryian 5, the french rocket, the european added to it, they can put into space any spacecraft that's being built and it's a commercial approach. it costs $400 million plus to put the shuttle up there, contessa, they can do it for $180 million. >> but is nasa disappointed about this? jay, when you're talking to nasa folks? >> yeah. well, i don't know if they are or not. because this just came out. now, the facilities are already built here. they have already flown this twice. it works perfectly. it has the record of history. and they're sitting there saying, what is a no-brainer, like, are we going to fly something else or look at this or what are we going to do? i think what we're going to do here, contessa is say, let's see what happens. i want to see what they can come up with to say, why we shouldn't fly this, because it's so