in on these negotiations. it's because as you point out, we've spent over $6.5 billion in the last 20 years building these stadiums up. >> you mention getting the fans involved. the green bay packers just won the super bowl as the only fan-owned team in the nfl. should all the teams be owned by the fans? >> how great would that be, right? we wouldn't have to worry about owners suing city papers like we have here in d.c. or trying to get season ticketholders who are 82 years old to pay for their seats. that's not going to happen because the nfl has passed a rule they won't allow it. if we can get enough fans to support us, we can really make a difference on this debate. >> let's look at the packers for a second. as a fan-own teams, they can't be moved, hard to sell.