that, the whole objective for all of us is to have meaningful work. not just a job. >> the divide between the kid who comes out of high schools the kid with a b average or c average. what do we do for the young man who is 18 coming out of school with a b or c average, got through all right, not a troublemaker, was for him today. >> there's lots of things. one of the strategies and my daughter is pretty well -- pretty strong academically. she considered the community college road for her first two years as an easy way to kind of mainstream herself into the college environment and then to go university. it looks like it will be different for her but i think that's a pathway. the military being a veteran myself that's a pathway. there are great opportunities. >> your honor, what do you say when you look at kids coming out of your high school in detroit,