schools and so forth that as you point out state governors don't want to see cut, some health care spending and so forth. when you talk to somebody like peter king, the republican congressman from new york, you said, you know, $100 billion, unrealistic, $50 billion, maybe, maybe not. we have to be really careful. he's now a committee chairman. a lot of the older guys, the guys barney frank was talking about who started out as revolutionaries perhaps and maybe still right wing republicans in certain respects are also committee chairmen and they want the right to spend some money. >> we know mr. boehner has a plan -- a strategy to have a gavel that looks either like a keg on a stick or a croquet mallett, do house democrats have an overarching strategy? did congressman frank hint at it, sit back and let the two parts of the gop kill each other? >> yeah. i think they're going to sit back and watch and issue press releases on go on "countdown" because there isn't a whole lot else they're going to be able to do.