and romneycare was obamacare. >> he doesn't seem to have it, what i watched all my life that thing in politics that makes a person interesting, intriguing, you want to hear their next word what they are up to you care about them, fascinating, obvious an attractive man, a good success record, a good family, i like him when i meet him. i don't feel that curiosity about him that i do about great politicians. your thoughts. >> me in my broad tastes, i think that he's actually a very interesting guy. >> what are you curious about him? what would you like to know what he doesn't want to know? >> i think he is attractive now. >> what about mitt romney, what do you find interesting about him? >> his background. >> he's a businessman. >> olympics, governor, he has done a loft things in his life. >> makes him interesting? huh? okay. >> he's more of a known commodity that actually helps him to some extent. some of the stuff he had to go through in 2008, not go up through again, put the mormon question to rest to some extent. >> in our world? in our world in the united states baptist part of the