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is going to raise taxes on its own people? >> maybe it won't. but we're not talking about for 99.9% of america. we're talking about that little legislativeer at the top. i do think and you understand, pat, that there is a disconnect. the populist movement is fueled by a lot of people frustrated. look at the tax code, if we could clean up the tax code, more than 70% of americans don't even itemize deductions. >> the mortgage deduction, deduction for charity? >> i don't know about that one. i think there's a lot of things we can clean up in the tax code and bring the corporate tax rate down, the individual tax rate down. that's where the fiscal commission i think did a very good job. i was disappointed paul ryan didn't support it. we had republicans in the senate that supported it. coburn and durbin both supported the fiscal commission. that can be a headline. that's a big deal, to have those two ends of the ideological spectrum saying we need to clean

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