the other. that has to be said at the top of the leadership. there has to be zeroal rans for any activity associated with one's belief system in terms of, i guess, your sexual orientation. if you will. >> we have these examples in place. in attitudes about race and genter. how do you think it will go about dealing with the attitudes of sexual orientation? >> well, i was opposed to the repeal of don't ask, don't tell. let me put that on the record. lit be a serious challenge of good order and discipline in the military. what is it going to do to soldiers that want to volunteer, that don't want to share their fox hole, so to speak, with someone who doesn't share their value system. they need to stay neutral. the military has to establish a