leading a generic republican candidate, as you look ahead to the election by about three points. a lot of people find the president very personally likable there. this poll shows 74% of people say he has strong family values. do you think that is what keeps him out in front? >> well, i think he's -- i mean, right now, you can call it tied or one way or the other, but the thing is, the fact is that they haven't given -- most voters haven't given up on him personally you know, about 35%, 38% view him hostilely. and then of the others, they still like him. they think he's well intentioned. they're not wild about everything that's happened. but that helps prop him up some and keeps things from getting worse. but so much of his fortunes are really tied to the economy, how the economy performs over the next two years, what happens to the unemployment rate, and his fate more than anything else is tethered to that economy. >> okay. let's do some matchups here as