>> well, first thing i would say is we're there because that's where al qaeda mounted their attacks against the united states. we have a real mission there. it's continuing. second, we're going to begin withdrawal. it's not going to be as, i think, robust as i think many would like but the direction is going to be set and it's going to be firm. the president has done the same thing in iraq. he said on the campaign trail and he was -- it was out of the debate that he was going to start to withdraw. that withdraw is well under way and headed in the right direction. the question i think in a year from now i think that we'll see that shift. i think that we'll see more activity by the afghan national security forces. i think that you'll also see a continuing very robust counterterrorism effort by the united states. and that'll be our special forces operations. >> well, right now we've got a brand-new poll, senator, "washington post"/abc poll joining our other poll that says that 60% of the americans believe the war in afghanistan, a tough assessment, is not worth