>> well, perhaps in fiction -- >> in fiction. >> in fact, it's been unimagined, unfortunately coming to fruit now. maybe the most disturbing part of this, and it's not beat up clarence thomas day, although maybe every day should be beat up clarence thomas day, do you have any problem with the justices of the supreme court showing up in the middle of this hoo-ha? >> i talked to a lot of law professors today about the ethics of this, and everybody agrees that judges just historically don't do this. you know, there's no prescription against them being involved in political causes. they're human beings, they're flesh and blood, they're allowed to have opinions, but just sort of out of respect for everybody else, they kind of pretend they're impartial. and for scalia and thomas to openly go around with these people is a bit of -- it's thumbing their nose at everybody in a way. it's different for a supreme court justice. >> and obviously this didn't happen concurrently, but it happens concurrent with alito's statement that he won't and several other justices won't go to the state of the union address because it's become too politicized. that looks like a recitation of the phone book compared to this.