he said some interesting things. let's listen to that debate on msnbc. >> do you believe that being gay is a choice? zpl. >> i do. >> based on what? >> based on what? >> yeah. >> i guess you can choose who your partner is. >> you don't think it's something determined at birth? >> i think that birth has an influence over like alcoholism and some other things, but you have a choice. >> i absolutely believe he's outside the mainstream of views on this. >> nicole, you're with the lambda law caucus here on campus and john, you represent this area. i don't know what to make of this. one of those old nature versus nurture arguments. what did you make of this? you're openly gay. what do you make of this guy saying this is a choice?