ads. i have to say, david, it's a pretty easy political solution to show the american people where the money is coming from. since it's been a week and a half, two weeks in this debate and they haven't shown you where the money is, it calls into question where that money comes from. >> isn't it striking to you that, robert, an administration that passed health care reform, massive stimulus to try to grow the economy is in, itself, using a fear tactic couple weeks before the election, talking about karl rove, chamber of commerce and secret money into the campaign? >> it's just the facts. karl rove, who believed quite frankly, that outside money in the 2004 race had the potential to derail our democracy before he started running a group that i think we now both agree has a chance to derail democracy. karl rove is spending $50 million. chamber is spending $50 million. if you add it up, it's $399 million. nobody knows who those donors