yeah, yeah. well now we know what it was they were shoveling and it wasn't asphalt. so what's the e mafl address here? >> i don't even know. joe@msnbc.com. >> people are going to attack you for focusing on cosmetic, talking about the tone of her voice. >> vocal tone or political tone. >> i'm talking about the actual tone of her voice. she's a nice person, god bless her, making a lot of money in this country. using her fame and celebrity to further her career. there's no argument about all of that. that's positive. i think instinctively there's a lot of people on the tone of her voice, not the content of what she says, the tone of her voice. do you want to listen to that for four years? >> you're not suggesting we should elect political leaders based on the tone of their voice sns. >> i think it's a factor when we vote for people. >> we've elected them on haircuts and height before? >> everything is a factor. people want to like the candidate.