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woodward. there is no real reporting to back it up. in fact, if you listen carefully to what bob woodward told andrea, at no point does he claim there was any reporting done it is pure speculation. and then to john king, they said there were some hillary clinton advisers. this had is like as vague a source as you can get, the lowest kind of source on the washington totem pole is an adviser. it could be her hair dresser. and some, nothing but a number. two, three? how many is some? so, that is really the kind of washington rumor that has no backing. >> interesting thing about journalism, arianna and andrea, this trade craft of ours, journalism, the way you get a story going and really an interesting way. let's imagine this. i will just try to use my political sensors here and my knowledge. it seems to me that something like this could develop for a very important reason, this story, a very important reason. if you're close to hillary

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