>> we love joe. we love joe. this past week nbc universal has been doing education nation. i reminded people at a town hall event that you were out really early with the president, with newt gingrich, with a lot of different people fighting for reform saying education reform is a civil rights issue, and we've got to go after the special interests if they're standing in the way of helping kids. >> first let me say i think it was great what nbc universal did. national action network honored zuckerman this year. what they did this week, if every media entity did it -- this is above partisan politics. i came to some of the sessions. it must be a commitment everyone has. if the country can't come together around educating the young people of this country when we're 21 and 25 in math and science, what are we going to unite around? >> you're right, jeff zucker has