>> what about today's vote? what about today's vote in the senate? not one republican senator went along with the incentive package to bring jobs back to america. how do you defend that? >> i'll tell you what. when republicans hopefully take over the senate, we can put some economic -- >> you didn't answer the question. todd, the last word. >> get the government out of job creation, which is what jesse jackson wants. >> putting them in charge will late to more a health care bill, they have made enormous progress while the republicans sat on the sidelines and tried at every moment to blow it up. >> tod and karen, great to have you with us tonight. always a pleasure. good to have you on. up next, part 2 of my interview with alan paige.