district to implement whatever evaluation tool we want. so, we've got a lot of pushback. we still get tremendous pushback from the unions. so, for example, we just identified about 241 educators of this last summer who were not effective or did not have the certificate, et cetera, and when we did that, we said for the ineffective teachers, people who got that on the evaluation, a robust evaluation, looking at multiple things, you are now being terminated, then we get slapped with this, you know, huge class action grievance, basically, saying, we're grieving the way that you did this. but the bottom line is that if these people are ineffective and if as president weingarten said no one wants ineffective teachers in the classroom, you can't fight us every step of the way when we're moving in that direction. >> what do you see in the sense of the overall here, because this is really the core? >> it is the core. >> let's take a step back. the status quo isn't working for children. it's not working for the country. what the president gets we have to educate our way to a better economy.