his world view, i would look at the christine o'donnell race as sort of collateral damage in a larger battle. >> pat, chris hayes has just placed himself in your seat quite effectively. that's what you believe? >> i think that's right. buckley's rule is a knock off of gal breath's rule. buckley went for goldwater in '64. we knew by the time that came around we couldn't win. buckley ran himself 65 for mayor and got wiped out, got 13%. but i do agree with this general idea that you don't pick someone who is a sure loser. i don't think this gal is a sure loser. crowd hamer said last night on o'reilly, one in ten. i don't agree. i would give her a one in three chance of winning that seat, given the energy -- >> wow. really? >> she's going to raise $40 million. >> every tea party guy in america is headed for wilmington.