i used to be upset by that but now i say an extremist for was? an extremist for bigotry or extremist for love? i think if pastor jones were an extremist for love and compassion that would be a great thing. i'm afraid that even if the imam decided to move the mosque, that looks like a victory for compassion and sensitivity. in reality it's a concession to the worst form of bigotry and reactionary forces that would indeed have the upper hand again. >> lastly, is there still some kernel of good news in this? because of all the things we don't know and we discussed it, and obviously the imam doesn't know and the associate pastor doesn't know and pastor doesn't know, the parts of the deal that we seem to believe are intact. koran burning canceled. moderate new york muslims to meet with fundamentalist florida christian. is that good news? >> it's good news when people sit down at the table of brotherhood so to speak and sisterhood and talk across ideological differences and religious