there's fire laws about burning things in bonfires in gainesville and my impression was the fire department was not going to let this happen any way. we were doing this thing for no reason whatsoever except that it balances off the other thing for new york which is a bad idea. it's not the finest hour as a country right now. i do think if you keep 5% rule in mind perhaps next time it will work out better. >> do you think that when the defense secretary called this pastor when secretary clinton spoke out and the president spoke out, should they have not spoken out about it so as not to elevate this guy? >> it's a good question. they are probably sitting there asking themselves that question. once they did that, you couldn't as a news organization say i am going to ignore the crazy guy that the president is calling up tomorrow. it doesn't work at that point.