nbc analyst clint is with us now. clint, tell us what negotiators are doing in a situation like this. >> well, you're trying to do a number of things, as you know, from covering these over the years. you are trying to stabilize the situation. you don't want this to go bad on you. you're trying to get all the innocent civilians out of the way and you're trying to make sure he can't hijack a car at gunpoint. once you have a situation stopped when you're at one location, the last thing you wanted to do was go mobile. then it just, it really compounds the situation to law enforcement. so, they want to keep him in one spot and make sure he can't hurt anybody else or get his vehicle or another vehicle going and then they want to start negotiations and during the course of negotiations, you're just trying to bring down, bring the stress and anxiety level down to the point where hopefully he lays down his gun and does what law enforcement ask him to do. >> clint, if you can stay by. we'll continue to follow the situation and take a quick break, but a man armed,