education crisis. our series in conjunction with ebony magazine called "making the grade." it leads up to a special on sunday. the special begins on noon eastern time. hope you join us for it. but in the meantime, msnbc is partnering with ebony and amy dubois is editor and chief of ebony magazine. we have got an exclusive interview with the president on this. amy, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> the statistics are devastating, we have heard them all before, we know the dropout rate facing young black students, the drop out rate is staggering and unspeakable. last the problem with the way this is being dealt with? >> i think the president is taking this to a new level with not just his particular administration's efforts, race to the top, the teach program, the race to the top is the incentive based program in which various states will compete to