what we saw with president reagan, president clinton. this is that sort of mid term place where two years in it's hard and president obama has had to make a lot of very tough decisions and asking people to just have some faith and trust at a time when people don't have that. i mean, there is no simple answer to bp or the economy. >> don't worry about the pol$s that show him up against republicans two and a half years now. i don't think they mean a great deal. a problem is not that the president in 2012, november, it's the guys that are up in three and a half months and their main asset is under water, not much of an asset at 44%, and the fact that people are referring republicans who are only at 20% approval. that is a terrible news. there is no way to spin that well for the democratic party this november. >> wait a minute, pat. that is one poll. the gallup poll showed democrats ahead. there are other polls that show people trust democrats to handle the issues more. we happen to have more cash on hand. the rnc has some funny business going on with cooking the books over there. >> rove has a lot of money. >> okay.