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>> even in ohio, places like that where this is not just a pure anti-obama as much as it is about the decisions that many of those folks have made. >> reflect it is body. when you are a senator, you represent a state and they're going to be some people in the opposition party and there are some moderates and independents and almost not by necessity but a tendency to recognize the existence of swing voters and talk to them and people in these really ironclad democratic or ironclad republican districts 20 points off of how the nation is, you know, the air isn't quite as sensitive. >> talk about the senate because i think we're reading articles this morning, some republicans think they see a path to taking the senate, as well. they have to run the table but is it in the realm of possibility? >> i think it is in the realm of possibility. i'm not going to necessarily go to las vegas and put money on it right now but if you think about washington, wisconsin,

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