not lived there in three million years. they forgot to mention hurricanes or tropical storms and, by the way, so did exxonmobil and conoco phillips in their spill response plan. the level of seriousness with which these oil companies took their responsibility to insure that in the event something went wrong, that a spill occurred is obviously very low. >> do you have more hope that the oil companies could be made to care about these things or do you have more hope that the government will stop saying yes to disaster response plans that say don't mention the possibility of hurricanes in the gulf of mexico? which is going to improve first? >> i actually think that this nightly, daily televising of this catastrophe and the abysmal response of the oil industry is going to make them accountable.