the event of another major spill such as the one we're experiencing right now? >> it's pretty clear that the only technology that these companies have invested in for a response to a spill in the gulf of mexico is a xerox machine. they basically xeroxed, each one of them did, the same plan that had walruses in it, that had the name of a deceased person with their telephone number from 2005. it is now 2010. and they all had the same plan. so it's obvious that they all decided that they would promise to the federal government that they could clean up a spill of 250,000 barrels a day, 200,000 barrels per day, but yet in their spill response plan they had walruses, they had the names and telephone numbers of dead people. they just did not take it seriously. and to be honest with you, mms turned into a lap dog and not