or otherwise or owners who say it is inappropriate for us to convene under these circumstances? >> one of his heroes is lyndon johnson the legislator who ruled through consensus in a lot of ways and that's the way he has ruled. i think what he'll try to do is explain, a, b, c, d. here's what i'm thinking, here's why -- he's been very good at getting what he wants in the past. and i think that's what he'll do again, on, you know, what could happen, though, i mean, if you and i could name a group of people. if albert pujols and tony la russa and dusty baker and derek jeter go and say, commissioner, we're not playing in this all-star game, it would be a very tough call. but i think he believes his power of persuasion and credibility on the issue of racial fairness will hold sway on this. >> throwing another name in would be alex rodriguez but i'm not holding my breath on that. there's another thing about players and a boycott and i'm wondering if this has already unintentionally part of the calculus. the chilling effect that has been predictive of this, i'm